BUDDAHPUG asks: “We are moving back to the East (thank goodness) in a month or so. I used to live in the Lower East Side (in the 80’s) and now looking for a place in Brooklyn. I saw a beautiful apt. listed near Prospect Park. I was wondering if anyone could let me know if the area is okay. Since I lived in the LES, I can deal with some funkiness, just want to feel on the safe side. The address is 890 Flatbush Ave., Patio Gardens is the name. It looks like 5 high rises,. They have 24 hr. security. Also How many minutes/stops is ParK Slope from the 1st stop in the city?
“It looks like a great area. My b-friend bikes and it looks like a perfect combo of nature and city!”
LINK: Moving Soon to Brooklyn [Kathy in Daily Heights Forums]
Oh geez, another ‘hip’ one that likes to refer to Manhattan as ‘the city’. Getting real tired of that.
Needs a real geography lesson ’cause 890 Flatbush avenue/Patio Gardens isn’t Pk Slope or even next to it.
I don’t know, Pete. I understood it to mean “city” as opposed to “the park”, nothing to do with Manhattan.
Since when did it even become hip to refer to Manhattan as the city? That’s what people from the Brooklyn have always called Manhattan. Is my grandmother hip? I don’t think so. That was just a mean thing to say.
Who cares? Everyone calls Manhattan ‘the city.’ Manhattan is “the city” and Brooklyn is “neighborhood.” Nevertheless, after Ratner takes everything, we’ll see; there may be little distinction soon enough.
I dont know Pete Im with Isa on this one – referring to Manhattan as “the City” is as Brooklyn as it gets. I grew up in what is now called Gowanus and my mom still refers to that part of Brooklyn as South Brooklyn (this included Cobble Hill, Borum Hill, Carrol Gardens, Red Hook and parts of PH.) So I guess what may sound “hip” to you is really vintage to us born and raised Brooklynites.
Yay! People in agreement! This is soooo bridge and tunnel of us.
I guess its the newcomers picking up on this oldtimer phrase that bugs me most. As in think trying to sound more real NewYorker if they say ‘the city’. Certainly in past several years has gotten to be ‘in’ phrase – used much more often where its starting to grate on me. (besides it makes it sound as though we live in NJ)
PS.
But lots of phrases get to me – ’24/7′ ,
‘sacred ground’, ‘willy-b’, ‘touch base’.
Pete,
You are being oversensitive here. I moved here three years ago and everyone I met referred to Manhattan as “the city”. So, I did too.
Now, “Willyburg” I can understand getting worked up about although I have to admit I laughed the first time I heard Williamsburg referred to as “The WB”.
Please, Pete, stop trying to apply so much negative intent to people who use the phrase “the city” when referring to Manhattan. Most people use the term because they live in Brooklyn and work in Manhattan, and they identify Brooklyn as a calmer place, an oasis of sort, a home as opposed to how they work in “the city”.
There’s also a geographic and temporal sense to the “city”/Brooklyn dynamic. You have to cross a river and/or spend 30 minutes to get to “the city.”
I have to say though, this whole Brooklyn identity crisis thing is so tiresome.
Seriously, folks.
Pete, you sound like an ass. Anyone who grew up in the suburbs of Manhattan refers to Manhattan as “the city”. It’s not a hipster thing, if anything, it’s a local thing.
No need to call Pete names – he justed stated his opinion – we’re all neighbors here 🙂
Dont hate – educate
Stacey-
Yer an ass too!
Sorry to disappoint you Uber Im not an Ass – Im a bitch – and its MS. Bitch to you
Yeah, maybe I do have a Brklyn identity crisis, but referring to Brooklyn as a “suburb” of Manhattan is going too far. It’s bad enough calling Manhattan “the city”, as if Brooklyn is not part of it, but relegating my borough to the status of NJ, LI and Westchester is more than I can take.
Can we go back to when everyone was in agreement?
I grew up here (Bklyn) and have always felt a little annoyed when people refered to Manhattan as “the city,” since I felt that we were a legit part of the city.
That being said, I don’t feel as strongly about it as some old-timers from the Bronx who still write their address as “New York, NY” instead of “Bronx, NY.”
That is not in Park Slope, or Windsor Terrace. I don’t know what neighborhood it’s called now. Don’t know about safety. That is the beer and caribbean food side of the park as compared to the wine and cheese side. The food definitely smells better during the day, but I dunno about after dark.
Taking the Q train, it would be 6 stops (~35min) to Canal Street (the 1st stop in the Borough of Manhattan) and 9 stops(~50min) to Times Square. To downtown Brooklyn, it would be 2 stops, a transfer, and 2 more stops (~30min).
Biking in the park is pretty nice.
how come everyone focused on pete’s comment on the use of “the city” as a reference to Manhattan, but no one answered Buddhapug’s the question about patio gardens? i visited a friend there recently and thought she had a great apartment and an affordable price. i would move there in a minute, but they don’t accept pets. i have a dog that i can’t give up.